I don't agree with LS Aokiji personally, but it is up to your opponents to disprove. Dosun | AdmiralKinyagi; Tuesday at 10:58 PM; 2 3. Fukuro | That should somewhat be the distance between the Soul King Palace and Sereitei, while it may not be the actual distance, it's just a general idea of what the overall distance should somewhat be. Let's get right into this: I am going to start with Rman because he is representing a verse I know like the back of my hand. But rather than fighting them immediately, he helped some people who were stranded on an island by freezing the ocean to create a path to another island. piece. Ginrummy | Gasparde | Drip | Bear King | Kalifa | Hyouzou | It took Auschwalen, the span of a short conversation to pass the gap. Su One Piece Power potrai trovare qualsiasi cosa riguardande il mondo di One Piece: Episodi, Capitoli, Immagini, Video, Censure, Videogiochi, Guide e tanto altro! Remember that Toshiro is the same guy who blitzed Charlotte, who bltized Bambietta who naturally scales above Lillito Lamperd. Mr. 1 | As in no knowledge and no preparation. And it only gets worst as I read it. DMS Kakashi's Perfect Susano'o scales above this btw, so even though kamui has time limit of usage, Perfect Susano'o would still be there to protect DMS Kakashi. Sasaki) 8-54: 12 Jan 14: A Major Turnaround! He believes in "Lazy Justice," which is unlike most Marines. Aokiji contro Doflamingo 15 Dicembre 2013. You understand that Byakuya back in the Shinigami arc, the stone age of bleach Broke Ichigos Soul Chain and Soul Sleep which is practically what binds something to its living Body. Itomimizu | Officer Agents: Mr. 0 | "Blackbeard" Marshall D. Teach, Impel Down Staff Toshiro can literally finger flick flash freeze someone if he wanted to and the guy isn't slow in the slightest. I would genuinely like to know what fanfiction you got this from because Aokiji has never once done this in the canon manga. Headliners: (Tobiroppo: Page One | DMS Kakashi was able to save Sakura before she gets blitz stomped by Kaguya who herself is light speed (i'll get into further details about her speed feat later on this section). Also having energies equalized mean's like for example haki being equalized with your energy and chakra being equalized with haki this means I can just be hit and killed by any of your attack's and you cant really hit kakashi if that's the case but who know's. You literally proved my point that Kakashi's intang is useless. @laskt@epichotflame@the_amongus@naronu@delein@sauce_god31@belando@requiemcross@ultimatesage@sanjee007@marplay, @highmantra_x0sp: Best one ever! This can also be easily debunked by me bringing up the fact that Naruto's shadow clones kept up with Madara's limbos which are basically another Madara being manifested from his own shadow, as he refers to them as himself and not clones, in another plane of existence: Thanx to @joviolma for correctly translating the databook concerning limbo: 輪墓・辺獄 Limbo・Border Jail 忍術, 血継限界 Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai 攻, 防, 補, 近 Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary, Close Range 使用者: うちはマダラ User: Madara Uchiha. Considering the small city lvl width and the mountain lvl depth, tenpechii should be resting at small island lvl of DC. Kaneshiro | Charlotte Oven | He ate a Devil Fruit which allows himself to turn himself or someone else into ice. Aokiji left the Marines after he lost the fight vs Akainu. Even though we exclude genjutsu, DMS Kakashi still comes out victoriously with a no difficult stomp. They have to be fast enough to move out of the way not more so react to it. Rman's argument, though very poorly phrased, touched on this basic concept. Aokiji was wary of Doflamingo for what he was doing and attacked him for attempting to kill his friend, Smoker. I also fail to see how this scales to DMS Kakashi as well. stated that it would take a week to get there with Normal Shunpo. Kamui is a space-time ninjutsu which can be very versatile in battle. My vote goes to @highmantra_x0sp, because his counters and and arguements were the best. Powers and Abilities Devil Fruit. Moeru Shima Panku Hazādo上陸! Kurozumi Orochi | Ten Titanic Captains: Jesus Burgess | That aside, you were pretty generic when it came to countering while the other two where much better in countering/debunking what you said. Kaguya's Hand would be attack speed, not movement or combat speed. Can you also explain to me how that Luffy (who is massively faster than PTS Zoro) couldnt keep up with Kizaru, if PTS Zoro was really relativistic in speed? Hobby Even PTS Zoro who aokiji is MUCH MUCH faster than is reacting to kuma's blast's which is light by the wayand works in the same way as kizaru's blasts. Vinsmoke Family In the next section, you don't even attempt to make an argument: Huh? Marine Admiral (resigned)Marine Vice Admiral (former)Associate of the Blackbeard Pirates Vinsmoke Judge | Duval | Referee | Not only is running away not a viable tactic in a fight, but the rules of this CaV explicitly describe this as a random encounter. As in, flying in from nowhere to block them from hitting Whitebeard. The Unluckies, God's Army In a CaV where your opponents came out the gate with FTL scaling and country wide freezing AoE... bringing up city block level feats and explosion timing was the worst decision to make. "Sweeper" Bobbin, Blackbeard Pirates Waiters, Big Mom Pirates The biggest surprise was that he joined the Blackbeard Pirates. Scarlet, Kid Pirates One Piece Its like me saying any Kage scales to Minato's and Naruto's speed lol. Trust me, it wont even take Kakashi 5 minutes to blitz and one shot Aokiji with kamui's intangibility+superior speed+chidori combo. Sakura being able to react has nothing to do with movement speed. Only downfall is that it has a time limit, Obito and his chakra reserves can only use it for 5 minutes: DMS Kakashi obtained Six Paths power which is massively above that 3x amp, so the limit would be massively above 5 minutes, maybe 30 minutes, even 5 minutes would be enough to beat both ice users tbh but whatever. Frontier Agents: Mr. 7 | That's blatantly an attack. Which is as baseless as it gets and you provided literally zero evidence to substantiate that. Edward Weevil | Mr. 3 | Luffy fought as hard as he could with Kuzan but, ultimately, the battle was ended when Kuzan froze Luffy solid with a single touch. Look, the vast majority of your post was completely unnecessary. Foxy Pirates Hogback | Toshiro can affect Kakashi in any way, shape, or form with just a single Clash. Giolla | Mouseman | During this time-skip, the Straw Hat Pirates trained their skills to be better equipped for the New World and the strong enemies that they would encounter along the way.. RELATED: 5 Thought-Out Fan Theories Of What One Piece Actually Is (& 5 That Seem Ridiculous) Buffalo | Simply put, Auschwalen crossed Several million miles in a span of a conversation and isn't made of Reishi but light. Thing's just pass through kizaru since he is literally light not to mention the fact its not just aokiji who kakashi will be fighting its toshiro to you cant fight 2 people at once if they all are fighting at each other anyone could be hit but at the same time no one can counter aokiji's logoa using chidori wont do anything the move has physical ability as it hurt and made kaguya bleed saying it has physical ability, Also the kamui attacks wont do anything most of the attack's warp thing's to the kamui dimension which is banned since its BFR the only move kakashi has really is black lighting blade which wont do anything here since it has physical touch its not like everyone is bloodluste dno one will be targeting anyone meaning saying kakashi will just blitzed out of nowhere is wrong. ... Doflamingo. (Others: Sheepshead | In all honesty, I feel like your opener was a wasted post. Others: Bellamy | Sugo-Fest is a special Rare Recruit Rate Up event. At the very least you argued against Rman pretty well, but he was far from the biggest threat here. In the Japanese dubbed version, he is voiced by Takehito Koyasu, who is famous for his role as Dio Brando in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Blood. i didnt make energies equalised tho i just noticed when making my final post, and u can hit DMS Kakashi if u faster which Aokiji isnt sadly, @the_amongus: yh and i still have DMS Kakashi at LS throughout the CaV, minus the speed amp via chidori which is ftl. Foxy "the Silver Fox" | One day, the Straw Hat pirates stopped on an island where Kuzan happened to be sleeping. I facepalmed in real life when I read this. Your closer runs into the same problems of poor formatting (underlining and italicizing every. The databook even says that the limbos have the same capabilities as the user. Sham & Buchi, Arlong Pirates The Strongest Creature in the World? Later, in the aftermath of the Whitebeard War, Fleet Admiral Sengoku announced his retirement and nominated Kuzan as his replacement. Wadatsumi, New World Pirate Crews After Ace's escape, his Ice powers and Ace's Fire powers clashed and, surprisingly, resulted in a standstill. What's the point? Kuzan expressed remorse for his actions and froze a path out to sea for Robin and giving her a rowboat to escape with. Going into your second post, you continue to test my impartiality by not only pushing your LS scaling, but arguing PTS Zoro as FTL. He made the better arguments and proved his character was superior here. Manipulating ice into bigger swords doesn't do anything to Someone who's Attack Potency Is easily in the Country lane per swing. Kiev | Your opener concerned me at first because you weren't specific regarding Toshiro's speed and with the few things you said ( in your opener), you made him sound like a statue when compared to the other 2 characters, but you did well in your counters and explained fairly well how fast Toshiro really was. Because he had to move Nanou outside Yamamotos Reaitsu Crush range which is, 13km. Like seriously, you are just asking to be laughed off CV with arguments like this and the kicker is you didn't even need to make them. He left the Marines due to Akainu becoming the new Fleet Admiral to whom he detested due to the mans cruelty and fascism. Vieni a visitarci! The fourteenth season of the One Piece anime series was produced by Toei Animation, and directed by Hiroaki Miyamoto.The season began broadcasting in Japan on Fuji Television on July 18, 2010 and ended on September 25, 2011. Lao G | It's like class. @the_amongus Remember that you can still win a CaV in a mismatch. I use to have the same problem, believe me. The Big News Shakes Up The New World! Shiliew | Baron Omatsuri | Pisaro | Only those with Rinnegan are allowed to intervene, the world that is adjacent to this world, but the farthest. Tamagon | The only Reason Toshiro didn't blitz the guy was because he was going to entirerly freeze him in general and he could Blitz Lillito if he wanted to as well. Captain: "Big Mom" Charlotte Linlin Kuzan then left the island without fighting, or even confronting the Straw Hats. If you wanted only them to see it, you could have easily DMed them. Why? Honey Queen | Even Naruto and Sasuke who were both relativistic+ werent fast enough to save Sakura from a blitz stomp from Kaguya but DMS Kakashi casually intercepted: I don't understand how that Claw is lightspeed. Miss Monday | Powers/Skills Episodio 626: Caesar è scomparso! It was quite shocking considering that Blackbeard is a very notorious pirate. ''輪廻眼'' を持つ術者とほぼ同等の能力を誇り、なおかつ不可視の堅調たる写し身…対峙する者からすれば、反撃不能の抗う術無き大敵である. Kakashi wouldn't be able to withstand an amped slash that neutralizes all it touches. Madara's attack speed/combat speed wasn't detailed and keeping up with "The 3rd Raikage" who is somehow Naruto's level when I highly doubt he is, isn't a feat when not fully shown. Shadow Clones equally divide Chakra across the bodies. How Aokiji would know that Kakashi uses Chakra, and know that he has a stamina issue and exploit that mid-fight is truly beyond me. Anti-Villainous Enforcer, Marine Vice Admiral (former)Associate of the Blackbeard Pirates. Queen "the Plague" | Aokiji contro Doflamingo 「緊迫! That's not doing much to a person who freezes something and nulls the power of said thing useless. 青キジVSドフラミンゴ」 - Kinpaku! Madilloman | Charlotte Broyé | Even though he has never used it before, Kakashi still possesses Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan which means I dont see why not him being able to use all abilities from it seeing as he was gifted it (not implanted artificially) by Obito who originally owned it. If you were to BFR Toshiro which isn't allowed, he'd open a Senkaimon and simply walk back into the Battlefield. Vander Decken IX | EveI wanted to use someone else who was FTL+ but no you guys said the character's should be above FTL even though your character's clearly are this made no sense and this CaV was basically a mismatch. Kakashi lacks a counter for all matter freezing and energy freezing as shown with Gerald Valkyrie. I think you were bested in every relevant argument as far as Kakashi was concerned. Like honestly, that was a horrible decision on your part, only makes you look worst, and significantly undermines your arguments. Kurozumi Kanjuro, Orochi's Army Tatsu | Replies 42 Views 394. This was made abundantly clear to me when reading your opener. Capture the Straw Hat Pirates (formerly) You upped the ante a bit with speed, citing MHS feats and scaling... but what does that mean when Kakashi is FTL and Aokiji is being argued there as well. Captain: Rocks D. Xebec Diamante | 50 Divine Soldiers: Yama | It being fraction of the users chakra was only said to affect the durability, not speed. I thought I would win but then I saw energies are equalized we cant hit kakashi but people can hit us that's not fair at all. Aokiji can not upscale way above Doflamingo just because we believe (or know in our hearts) that he is stronger than him by a potentially large degree. Donquixote Doflamingo ... Aokiji no alcanzó a congelar su interior). Tension! "Heavy Drinker" Vasco Shot | Wapol | Others: Jango | You where a lot better than your previous cavs but you can do a lot better than this , so waiting forwrd to your next cav. Since he has zero feats of such, it hits Toshiro and rips him to bits. Kaname Tosen once stated that Hollowfication was better than Bankai and Tosen does Indeed have a Bankai himself. All in all, Toshiro is the superior person and Aokiji would be off-screened in a few seconds by Toshiro or Kakashi while Kakashi would lose to Toshiro. Powers of the Hie Hie Fruit (Ice Ice Fruit)Haki Hmmmmm.....Let me thin about the thing you said so basically reaction=/=light speed movement this is where I would have to disagree first off when the light beams was about to hit said whitebeard the light beam's was traveling towards him but then out of nowhere marco moves and than block's the attack you see anything there? Aokiji can be considered as a foil to Akainu, as not only are their powers different, Aokiji is shown to be unwilling to commit pointless cruelty like Akainu. A few minutes is in the Country lane per swing at 7:57 am ; 4 5 6 it Toshiro! Friend, Jaguar D. 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